inequality. let's figure out how to stimulate the demand side of the economy because you need rising wages to have rising demand to get the economy going again. i think it's that kind of an agenda. and you know, in our view, what we talk to our members about, i was at a meeting in california of young new stewards on saturday, is this is seven to ten years. and, you know, i've been doing this my whole life. and i may not be there at the end of that period, but i am sure, absolutely certain that without that kind of a basic movement in this country, democracy and economic justice, t just theraditional union agenda, we don't have a chance. but on the other hand with that kind of an agenda i absolutely believe we can change this country as president obama talked about in 2008, you know, the change you can believe in, the change you'll work for. >> what's president obama done for labor in these last four years? >> well, i think he's tried to do quite a bit. i think in his heart he definitely supports, you know, working families. you know, part of the outcome piece, is what gets through the u.s. congress.